Tuesday, April 28, 2015

Fw: Middle Peninsula Tea Party concerns:

In response to Gary Porter's remarks on a constitutional convention.:
 
I will make my comments  highlighted in yellow  and in italics  below – but I will be brief.   To do otherwise could result in a tome and require more time than you want to spend. If you want more information the resources abound but here are a few. 
 
A ten minute overview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za8_pdJ1dPo&feature=channel_page

A collection
https://www.scribd.com/collections/3016281/Constitutional-Convention-Stop-the-Con-Con

On the Balanced Budge Amendment
https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/balancing-the-budget-or-adding-a-national-sales-tax-to-the-income-tax/

A more in-depth overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ip_rvYGRTw

Sue Long
"Abide By The Constitution, Not Change It!"
From  Gary Porter:
Sue and Others,
 
I feel it incumbent to respond to the claims made in Sue Long's email:
 

Claim: "You know full well the results if we lose our Constitution.  And, a constitutional convention would put it on the chopping block."

 

Truth: This is a false claim that panders to emotion. An Article 5 Convention has no power to "chop" anything, it only has the power provided it in Article 5, which is to propose amendments to the Constitution, which then must be ratified by 38 states.  As to the first sentence, I'm not sure I "know full well" the effect of "loosing" a Constitution that is being routinely ignored, as those opposed to a COS claim.

 

Amendments would change the Constitution.  There is no guarantee as to what the amendments would be. Once convened the delegates decide what amendments to propose and vote on.   

 

Claim: "And, after all, his vote affects not just…Virginia but all Americans."   

 

Truth:  Senator Norment's vote affects only Virginia's application for an Article 5 convention.  To suggest otherwise is blatant fearmongering and patently untrue. 

 

Yes,  his vote affects only Virginia's application for an Article 5 convention.  But that is not what I said.   If  Virginia petitions Congress to call a convention,  this affects every American. 

 

 

Claim: "…in 2004 [Senator Norment] voted for a resolution that states:

"The operations of a convention are unknown and the apportionment and the selection of

delegates, method of voting in the convention, and other procedural details are not specified in Article V… the prudent course requires the General Assembly to rescind and withdraw all past applications for a convention to amend the Constitution

 

Nothing has changed since then.  So why the flip flop?"

 

Truth: Everything has changed since 2004.  In 2004, the Convention of States Project had not yet been initiated.  The COS Project plan places limits on what types of amendments will be deemed in order at a convention: only amendments which serve to place fiscal restraints on the federal government, which reduce the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and/or which set limits on the terms of its officials.  Without these restrictions the convention delegates would be free to discuss and propose whatever amendments 51% of the delegations deem appropriate.  Nevertheless, such amendments would still require ratification by 38 states.  With these restriction, however, the 34 delegations associated with COS Project-compliant applications, which will constitute a super-majority, will determine whether a proposed amendment comports with the aforementioned goals and will be entered into the agenda.

 

Sounds good –but the Constitution does not say that. What it says is that the states petition Congress to make the call -  period.  No mention is made of anything the states can do other than that. 

 

 Ratification could be changed as it was with the 1787 convention when it changed the rules about who ratifies (from legislators to conventions) AND the required number for ratification from ALL states to 3/4. What could happen in a convention today? Ratification by a simple majority?  The president's signature?  

 

It is important that both sides of this important issue be heard, discussed, and considered.  I am happy to debate this issue with anyone at anytime.

 

Gary Porter

 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/27/2015 5:40:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, suesherrill8159329@gmail.com writes:
You know full well the results if we  lose our Constitution.  And, a constitutional convention would put it on the chopping block .
 
In Virginia, Senator Tommy Norment is key because he is the Senate Majority Whip.   He could be the deciding factor as to whether Virginia does or doesn't apply to Congress to call an Article V convention.  
 
So please contact him in opposition to a constitutional  convention, aka Article V convention, Convention of States, Balanced Budget Amendment  et al.
You don't have to be an authority.   Just print out one of the attached articles  and get it to him with a note asking him to consider the matter.  
 
VA Senator Tommy Norment's district covers Gloucester County (All); Hampton City (Part); Isle of
Wight County (Part); James City County (Part); King and Queen County (All); King William County
(All); New Kent County (All); Poquoson City (All); Suffolk City (Part); Surry County (Part); York County
(Part) but he is amenable to getting messages from those who just sign their name without their address.
And, after all, his vote affects not just only all in Virginia but all Americans. 
 
As a member of the Senate Rules Committee in 2015, he voted twice to pass constitutional convention bills out of committee instead of leaving them there to die.
One was for Mike Farris' Convention of States and one was for a Balanced Budget Amendment.
This was in spite of the fact that in 2004 he voted for a resolution that states:
"The operations of a convention are unknown and the apportionment and the selection of
delegates, method of voting in the convention, and other procedural details are not specified in
Article V… the prudent course requires the General Assembly to rescind and withdraw all past
applications for a convention to amend the Constitution …"
Nothing has changed since then. So why the flip flop?
 
His contact information is:
 
P.O. Box 6205
Williamsburg, VA 23188
 
Please let me know that you have contacted him so I won't be bugging you any more !
 
My most sincere thank you for helping to save our Constitution.  Sue Long

Monday, April 27, 2015

Middle Peninsula Tea Party concerns:

Friends and Patriots: 

Several issues we would be prudent to take PRO-ACTIVE looks at coming to us whether we like it or not!  

First
 A new 'WATER Resources Plan' is being proposed by the state and they are asking for COMMENTS until the 8th of MAY. We don't want to get in to a RE-ACTIVE situation as we did with our county COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.  Fore-warned is Fore-armed!  
It is suggested you review the State Water Resources Plan, found at www.deq.virginia.govThis is available for Public Comment through May 8.  In the Plan you may find it interesting to look at the "snapshot" for your local counties.  Obviously, DEQ is using models to guide them to 2040.  Just how good is the information being fed into the computer for it to spit out the desired information??? Are the issues we were told impacts our water quality on the middle peninsula being addressed?  Are the solutions appropriate to the expressed concerns? Are the concerns realistic?  

Is this something people feel we should investigate further? We have heard so much about water from: 
Where does the TRUTH lie?  Would it behoove us to learn more BEFORE the Water Plan is adopted? Is anyone interested in pursuing this further? Let me know what you think  ~ Sue Sherrill 804-815-9329 <suesjerrill8159329@gmail.com

 Second

Sue Long has asked me to pass the following along. Your input to Senator Norment is crucial if you believe opening the Constitution to change could be a Pandora's Box! Pleases let him know how you feel.
 
You know full well the results if we  lose our Constitution.  And, a constitutional convention would put it on the chopping block .
 
In Virginia, Senator Tommy Norment is key because he is the Senate Majority Whip.   He could be the deciding factor as to whether Virginia does or doesn't apply to Congress to call an Article V convention.   
 
So please contact him in opposition to a constitutional  convention, aka Article V convention, Convention of States, Balanced Budget Amendment  et al.
You don't have to be an authority.   Just print out one of the attached articles  and get it to him with a note asking him to consider the matter.   
 
VA Senator Tommy Norment's district covers Gloucester County (All); Hampton City (Part); Isle of
Wight County (Part); James City County (Part); King and Queen County (All); King William County
(All); New Kent County (All); Poquoson City (All); Suffolk City (Part); Surry County (Part); York County
(Part) but he is amenable to getting messages from those who just sign their name without their address.
And, after all, his vote affects not just only all in Virginia but all Americans.  
 
As a member of the Senate Rules Committee in 2015, he voted twice to pass constitutional convention bills out of committee instead of leaving them there to die.
One was for Mike Farris' Convention of States and one was for a Balanced Budget Amendment.
This was in spite of the fact that in 2004 he voted for a resolution that states:
"The operations of a convention are unknown and the apportionment and the selection of
delegates, method of voting in the convention, and other procedural details are not specified in
Article V… the prudent course requires the General Assembly to rescind and withdraw all past
applications for a convention to amend the Constitution …"
Nothing has changed since then. So why the flip flop?
 
His contact information is:
 
P.O. Box 6205
Williamsburg, VA 23188
 
Please let me know that you have contacted him so I won't be bugging you any more !
 
My most sincere thank you for helping to save our Constitution.  Sue Long
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Friday, April 24, 2015

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Check out "Homosexuals ransack, tag NC churches with pro-gay slogans" on Tea Party Command Center

National Dire…
Check out the discussion 'Homosexuals ransack, tag NC churches with pro-gay slogans'
There need to be prosecutions and very public ones to stop this kind of thing.

*Please share this alert with other concerned friends*

Discussion posted by National Director, Dee:

Bales Memorial Wesleyan Church in Jamestown, N.C., was the first Christian house of worship to be targeted last weekend by militant LGBT ad...

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Homosexuals ransack, tag NC churches with pro-gay slogans

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Saturday, April 18, 2015

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Thursday, April 16, 2015

Veto Session Update!

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96th District, Virginia House of Delegates  April 16, 2015
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While many Virginians finalized their taxes yesterday, the General Assembly returned to Richmond for the reconvened session. Also known as the "veto session," the reconvened session is the time at which the House and Senate convene to consider the vetoes and amendments offered by the Governor. 

Unsurprisingly, Governor McAuliffe vetoed many of the bills that I supported or co-patroned this year. Among those bills is House Bill 1752, legislation restricting adoption of Common Core standards in Virginia. Also vetoed by the Governor was House Bill 1626, the "Tebow Bill." 

Overriding a veto requires a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate. I am disappointed to report that the House failed to override the Governor's veto of the "Tebow Bill." Likewise, although the House cast a bipartisan vote to override the Governor's veto of HB 1572, the Senate failed to act similarly. For this reason, neither bill will become law.

I received numerous emails supporting both bills, and I thank all of you for your advocacy. I anticipate this legislation will again be introduced in future years, and I will continue working to ensure their passage.
Not quite finished...
Because the General Assembly was unable to finish consideration of the Governor's actions, we will return to Richmond on Friday. On our agenda will be review of the Governor's amendments to the ethics legislation. During this time, we will adopt the $100 aggregate limit on gifts, thereby concluding a productive 2015 General Assembly session.
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Since returning to Williamsburg in early March, I've enjoyed the opportunity to meet with constituents and attend events throughout the district. Recently, I chatted with Trey Phillips and his mother, Erika. Trey is vice president of the Student Council Association Hornsby Middle School, and Erika is a Williamsburg-James City County teacher. We are blessed with excellent schools in our region, and I appreciated learning about their involvement and leadership.  
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